Between “Reefer Madness” And “Crazy Stoner”, Is The CLEAR Path To Reform

    Let’s be clear.  Not all stoners are crazy and not all who oppose the reefer are mad.  At the two extremes though are the people who stand in the way of reform.  Their misguided and arrogant  ideas prevent access to cannabis by those who need it as medicine.  They undermine the rational and evidence-based arguments for reform, imposing their own selfish standards of behaviour and morality on others.

    At the “Reefer Madness” end are the sad, bitter ProHos like Mary Brett and Debra Bell.  They are supported by a group of journalists, some of whom share the same views, others who are simply exploiting the subject for their career: Kathy Gyngell, Melanie Phillips, Simon Heffer,  Peter Hitchens, etc.  In the House of Commons they are represented by Charles Walker, Nadine Dorries and David Burrowes.

    At the “Crazy Stoner” end are the sad, delusional fools who think that displaying their use of cannabis in public is somehow going to persuade our political leaders and the non-using majority that reform is a good idea.  They disrespect the fears and concerns of non-users and act as if defiance and bullying are ways to achieve change.  They adhere to the  idea that cannabis should be treated the same as carrots or tomatoes.  They have a few bloggers on their side who exist in the same haze of hopeless hippy hypocrisy.  No one represents them in the House of Commons.

    The CLEAR path to reform is responsible, evidence-based and sensitive even to the concerns of the extremists.  Writers such as Mark Easton, Tom Chivers, Derek Williams and Jason Reed support our policies.  They are represented in the House by Paul Flynn, Peter Lilley, Tom Brake, Julian Huppert, Bob Ainsworth and an ever-increasing number from all parties who are realising the truth about cannabis.

    Pragmatism, respect, compromise and evidence are the CLEAR way forward.

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    • deirdre o’gorman

      Oh No, I’m A Crazy Stoner!! Actually I Resent Being Called A Sad, Delusional Fool But I Am Honoured To Be Put In The Same Class As Sarah McCulloch (: And I Want To Be Able To Eat My Cannabis, Mr Reynolds, With My Carrots And My Tomatoes!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Spence/100001057514734 Scott Spence

      Are you kidding, without people on the streets  half of them probably wouldnt hav ended up looking through websites, whats the point trying to “out-smart” politicians, when we/they both know they are covering something they KNOW is wrong, anyone can press an ignore button on a screen or write a bullshit reply whereas having people on the streets protesting involves direct information from person to person, its alot easier to belive someones story from a voice not a text

    • http://www.peter-reynolds.co.uk Peter Reynolds

      I don’t agree Scott – at all.  If anything I think being “on the streets” probably antagonises more people than it has ever persuaded to research information about cannabis.  These are social events for smokers.  They have nothing to do with advancing the campaign.  It’s all preaching to the choir.

    • MR_Bimble

      Smoke-outs serve a purpose – it proves that cannabis users don’t cause violence and are normal people like the rest of society. However taunting the police with joints is always going to end in tears. I get the idea but the execution is wrong.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JRAZPLSRL2LSAWFQLRR4H2ZMAI Emperor

       Hear Hear,  its time for a new way of thinking, no point in preaching to the converted it is the ordinary guy/gal in the street who does not use cannabis and is perhaps ignorant of its many many benefits that need to be brought on board and this is where the cannabis truth show plays a massive part, the smoke in perhaps if anything reinforce already held negative stereotypes for those non users and it is far easier for them to think “stoner hippies” than it is to grasp the message about the massive benefits people get from smoking the safest substance on the planet.

      On the subject of non users, I would love to read a questions and answers session from Derek, he has championed our cause relentlessly for a very long time and as such I feel is key in his approach to persuading the non users.  I have a lot of respect for Derek, he is a non user and has fought against prohibition for over 2 decades? we need more Dereks not less, persuading non users is the key to our success.

      I do like the gathering though, and feel maybe too harsh a judgement is being made on them, live and let live, but can understand how non cannabis users may view the events in a negative manner which is not helpful in the grander scale of things.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Grantham/100003629372079 Robert Grantham

      The fact is there are 2 million people in this country who admit to smoking weed regularly but there are a lot more people who have either done it once and hated it or never tried it. They don’t want to look at people smoking joints in a park and enjoying themselves because they cant RELATE to that! other than to believe what has been portrayed in the media.

      On the other hand EVERYONE has had someone close to them die of illness which could be legitimately relieved by using cannabis. This is an important message, that cannabis has a safe and legitimate medical use. Trying to win this on recreational use alone will not work, the only way we can win this is by winning over the hearts and minds of the people. We need more prominent intelligent people to come on the radar and admit to using cannabis and to hear more testimonies from cancer patients/ ms sufferers to back up its medical use. 

      All the politicians are interested in is “will it win me votes” the current climate is around cost cutting and budget expenditure. We have to present the legalisation as a revenue generating incentive to win over the politicians and generate an industry in this country which will provide jobs and income.

      We have to know the people we are trying to reach, not to alienate them but to make them feel that this is something they are involved in, not preaching to the converted or pissing people off

    • Boris2012

      I’m with you on this one.

      Seeing the layabout druggie scum hanging arround in groups on the street corners or in parks all day instead of getting a job does nothing to convince me this stuff should be so freely available.

      What we need is a system of control that ends the current free for all (where kids can get drugs easier than alcohol) but makes this stuff available for free (on the NHS) for anyone with a medical condition that could be eased by it.

      As for the adults that want to use for pleasure . . . that should be their choice, but . . . they should have to pay for their pleasure, and the supply must be regulated to take it out of the hands of criminals and to protect our children.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Derek-Williams/1072934911 Derek Williams

       Thank you Emporer, I’d be pleased to do a Q&A session.

      What I would say in reply to the wider point that Peter has made, rather than
      “crazy stoner” I use the term “cannabis evangelist”. By that I mean people who
      reject any possiblity that cannabis can have any downsides at all and who
      believe the answer to all the world’s ills is to turn prople on to getting
      stoned.

      See I do agree cannabis is better than booze in terms of the effect it has on
      people – most of the time. It’s clearly a far less damaging drug than booze as
      well. But cannabis is like everythnig else out there, it isn’t totally, 100%
      “safe” for everyone, no matter how it’s used. Likewise it can be used to aid
      creativity, but using it won’t by itself make you a creative person.

      So I do agree with the point Peter is making here, but not the language he’s
      using to do it. That said, calling a “second order lever used to extract soil” a
      “spade” is fair enough, sometimes blunt speaking is a good thing. The cannabis
      law reform campaign has been held back by an unfair and very outdated
      stereotypical image for too long and change is long overdue.

    • Focusonpeace

      Isnt there a happy medium? Obviously smoking a joint in a cops face is foolish.
      But I do agree with showing the public cannabis users are safer than alcohol users. On a friday night the amount of alcohol fueled fights cannot compare with afew stoners in the park enjoying a joint quietly, the only thing people complain about is the cannabis smell in the air. What about the vomit and urine i have to smell when walking home on a late friday night from alcohol abuse? Also anecdotal evidence is needed from people who use cannabis medicinally to show how much it helps them. 

      So if a change is needed we cant whisper about it we need to shout otherwise they wont listen. We can shout with scientific evidence and real stats. No wonder why a few cannabis users shout louder than others they have been made to feel like second class citizens for years. Then again every Cannabis user awake to the situation feels like that, so smarts is needed but we cannot be passive any longer!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=638780163 Rachel Butterly

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    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Budworks-Stoneleigh/1567195189 Budworks Stoneleigh

      Can you provide any evidence that Tom Brake MP has supported any pro-reform statements?

      Being from near his constituency, i am only aware of his campaign to make the sale of cannabis seeds banned and to get a local headshop ‘Your High’ closed down.

      I would be pleased to hear he has changed his views but I cannot find any statement about it.

    • http://www.peter-reynolds.co.uk Peter Reynolds

      Tom actually sat right in front of me at the CLEAR press conference in the Houses of Parliament last September and was very warm about what we were saying.  I know about his record on the seeds issue but he is certainly pro-reform although I can’t be certain to what extent.  He is a member of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Drug Policy Reform.

      I had a quick look at his speeches and he is very strong on policy being evidence based.

      http://www.theyworkforyou.com/search/?s=drugs+&pid=10063 

    • stickybud

      When I wrote to him at the time of his seeds motion (sounds messy…), I recommended that he go to Jack Herer’s site and read The Emperor. Maybe he did.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JRAZPLSRL2LSAWFQLRR4H2ZMAI Emperor

      Thank you Derek and agree with you, shame about tone but maybe this is exactly what needs to be said and sure no one here thinks that those attending such events are bad or delussional people, perhaps a few LOL…

      Questions and answers with DW would be a fantastic gig or maybe lead a debate with PH or someone just as worth because you do come from a unique and much appreciated perspective, you are the person we have to reach out to, the fact that you was already on board with this is simply a gift from the gods, and one I am sure we can work to our advantage.. yes the time is right for this type of campaign, its new its fresh and it will scare the shit out of those who need it scaring out of them and on that score CLeaR has already done a fantastic job..  my only question that burns away at me derek would be “Why?”  what was the point that made you pick up the mantle and think right I am going to try and do something about this? because as a cannabis user I can think of a hundred thousand different injustices you could have chosen but you chose one that will when successful be of great benifit to myself and thousands of other and hope i have not answered my own question.. LOL  but it is the why Derek.

      The more I read this article the more I am liking it despite my earlier resevations.. have said this before and will say it again, I am really proud of you all.

    • http://www.peter-reynolds.co.uk Peter Reynolds

      Emperor, I wonder if you could explain what you mean by a Q&A session?  How do you envisage it might work?  On this website?

    • Oliver Whinnett

      Completely agree Peter.