Peter Reynolds, Radio London, Eddie Nestor’s Rumshop, 11th May 2012

    Eddie Nestor, BBC Radio London

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    Eddie Nestor’s Rumshop is a late night chat show based on the idea that in the Caribbean people would get together in the rumshop to discuss the issues of the day.  Eddie invited me on to discuss cannabis together with Marjorie Wallace of the mental health charity SANE.

    Neither Eddie nor Marjorie were keen on hearing any facts or evidence.  Eddie even went so far as to say that he preferred to hear people’s experiences rather than listen to statistics.  Fair enough  but hardly a way to get at the truth!

    Marjorie was actually very well informed about cannabis, so much so that she was very keen to stay away from the evidence about psychosis and stick to anecdote and scare story!

    Actually I think the programme would have been far better without Eddie.  Marjorie and I could have done an excellent job without him!

    • MauriceRabbit

      It seems that anecdote trumps evidence every time. 

    • Jack_Herer

      Keep at it Peter, whether the presenter’s mind is closed doesn’t mean the listeners’ minds are too. Rational people are definitely hearing you.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000005860263 Louis Fitzpatrick

      people are just so iggnorant now adays, & believe everything the papers/media tells them….
      but im glad to see we’re using this to our advantage, by spreading the thruth through radio/tv/papers.
      i honestly think the hardest part is getting rid of the “stigma” surrounding cannabis.

      some people say its a mirical plant, other say its a life destoryer, but it all comes down to moderation & fact information, if people knew the facts of cannabis they could make they’re own mind up about it, not be brainwashed by all this proppergander.

      another point to be made is the discrimination we all face, being protrayed as “hippies, losers, waste of space, pot heads” its wrong to be placed in these catagories, like peter said back in november i think it was, no-one is allowed to be offensive to people of diffrent origions, race, skin colour & sexuality, how come we’re still allowed to be discriminated against?

    • Focusonpeace

      How about coming on one of these shows with medicinal cannabis users. Show the public and idiot presenters how the positive anecdotal evidence out weights the negative. Let them see how much cannabis can help people, along with all the scientific fact to prove it. 

      Most people are ignorant, scientific fact is’int enough for them, But hearing some one with MS tell a story about how cannabis helps them function normally. Or some one suffering from cancer can tell their story about how cannabis can induce appetite and how the CBD is sending signals to tumors telling them to destroy themselves. The presenter and the public cannot deny that experience. 

      Of course the negative stories are out there, but i bet if we put every negative and positive anecdotal testimony on the scales positive out weights negative every time.
       Hopefully people can understand its prohibition which is the real danger. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Saqib-Moughal/1041796525 Saqib Moughal

      You were brilliant precise and accurate. It’s a shame that the two madams were far up each others @@@@ and that the only 2 people that make sence were you of course and our friend Mr nutt

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000005860263 Louis Fitzpatrick

      yea but only the negative make it to the papers cause all people want to hear about is how “EVIL” it is

    • Focusonpeace

      Even though its true, death and evil sell news papers and grab readers attention…But what about the fact that cannabis can slow or stop death, even give life? 

      I think that would get a lot more people interested or at least make them rethink their position on cannabis.
      And with medicinal users giving their story on media such as radio, instead of ‘cannabis made my son mad’, (because those stories get blown out of proportion, when the vast positive anecdotal evidence which is entwined with scientific fact gets dismissed and laughed at)
      How about, ‘cannabis saved my son’, or ‘without cannabis i cannot function normally’. Lets see the idiot radio presenter smirk and dismiss that.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000005860263 Louis Fitzpatrick

       to be honest id love to see that, a radio presenter saying cannabis is wrong to a medical user & denie them they only SAFE medication, even most doctors now adays would prefer u to smoke cannabis for alot of problem rather than taking them organ destorying pills they give you, cause they know its better for you, but they cant give you it legaly wich in my book is wrong

    • Focusonpeace

      In my opinion its almost scary .. the amount of conditions cannabis can cure or help with is staggering, yet my doctor wasn’t even aware of Sativex, or that there is legal cannabis in the UK. When I told her I use cannabis to help with my insomnia and anxiety, she wanted to send me to rehab or something lol. Gave me a funny look when i said i haven’t got a drug addiction.
      She told me not to drink alcohol with the pills she prescribed me, then gave me a weirder look when I said, Ever since cannabis iv stopped drinking.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000005860263 Louis Fitzpatrick

      oh my dont even get my started on the restictions alochol should have, in my eyes its poison. but lets not get on to that subject.

      i dont think alot of doctors know or would perscribe Sativex cause of the outragours price & the lack of knownlodgle with doctors/GP’s now

      is it even being taught in UNI yet?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000005860263 Louis Fitzpatrick

      on another note, how the hell did sativex bypass, growing laws & distribustion laws of cannabis, massive donations to the police fund?
      if so Sir branson best get his MASSIVE wallet out and get the ball rolling for all of us

    • http://www.peter-reynolds.co.uk Peter Reynolds

      Massive donations to the Labour party and a dishonest, corrupt MHRA which still today says Sativex isn’t cannabis!

    • Christopher Sawtell

      Just heard, but unsubstantiated: Clinical Cannabis is now offered routinely to all cancer patients in all hospitals in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. Whether this is the GWP Sativex liquid skunk, or the real thing I know not. I’d love to see Peter Hitchens’ face when he is told this.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000005860263 Louis Fitzpatrick

       well that just proves how dishonest & money grabbing are goverment really is.
      im pretty sure that paying for loopholes in laws is pretty illegal, more so than abit of pot.

      was just reading the “List
      of Police, Prison & Court Personnel charged or convicted of an
      offence 2009 to 2012″

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000005860263 Louis Fitzpatrick

       to be fair, atleast there is some sort of cannabis product on the market even if its a distilled (more than likey with alot of added chems) least some people can get help without it being “illegal”

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000005860263 Louis Fitzpatrick

      “All
      dese governments and dis an’ dat, dese people that say they’re here to
      help, why them say you cannot smoke the herb? Herb… herb is a plant, ya
      know? And when me check it, me can’t find no reason. All them say is,
      ‘it make ya rebel’. Against what?”
      - the legand that is bob marley

    • Focusonpeace

      isn’t it crazy how half the ‘war on drugs’ is focused on cannabis…the least harmful ‘drug’ of them all.

      http://stash.norml.org/wp-content/uploads/FBI-UCR-2008-Drug-Arrests.png 

    • Focusonpeace

      found another pretty interesting chart…

      http://www.thclist.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=787t 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000005860263 Louis Fitzpatrick

       tbh yea its is stupid how the war on drugs is all cannabis related, but if cannabis was legal what would the actualy police do? solve real crime for a change…..

      yea that chat on what the non-psychoactive cannabinoids, is getting more & more anti-???? everyday the more they test it, but yet they still call it the most destructive drugs bar herion & crack cocaine.

    • Focusonpeace

      LOL hope that picture is real

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anthony-Griffiths/509107250 Anthony Griffiths

      The link between cannabis and psychosis has never been proven. They have never been able to figure out weather it increases your chances of psychotic episodes or weather a person susceptible to psychosis is more likely to try cannabis. Also the percentage of people with mental illness that can supposedly be linked to cannabis is about 1% of people world wide but while the percentage of people using cannabis is ever increasing the percentage of people with such illnesses is not. People smoke and drink and dope themselves up on prescription medicines with more side effects than any illegal drugs and then try to tell me I’m the one on drugs. Cannabis is as much a drug as nutmeg or sugar cane. Sativex I would call a drug because its man made in a lab somewhere and only available so that a drug company can make money from an otherwise unpatentable plant. It makes me sick that any 16 year old CHILD can walk into a chemist and buy aspirin or ibuprofen effectively giving their kidneys and liver a right ol’ kickin’ where as for instance a wheelchair bound patient which MS finds 1 drug that improves their lives and they are then told if they use this drug yes it will improve their life, no there arent an detrimental side effects but no you cant have it because the big boss upstairs said so. And we are supposed to live in a democracy? People have used cannabis for thousands of years and will most likely continue to do so despite what a government that nobody trusts says or does.

      Sorry guys needed to vent :)

    • Focusonpeace

      Your completely right, everybody knows it. Certain people may want to ignore it and stick their heads in the sand, simply because either they know they are wrong, or they just don’t want their world view turned upside down. Cannabis is still a controversial subject for some people. The amount of passion people like me have for cannabis in terms of wanting it to Legalized, regulated and taxed, making sure patients are medicated, and kids and adults alike are educated… 
      The way I see it is, there’s someone out their with the same amount of  passion, but they want to see the medicinal cannabis patents in jail, they want to promote that cannabis brings on psychosis and they want to spread lies and propaganda with no scientific evidence. Their passion is misguided and based on lies and misinformation, our passion is based on truth, scientific results and freedom. Iv personally always believed that the risk in terms of jail time and criminal records when smoking cannabis, is be more detrimental to ones mental health than the Skunk itself. Yes im sure anything abused is bad and wrong for you, but you don’t see em prohibiting alcohol, cigarettes, video games and fatty foods.